i don't know about you guys, but i could have used some punctuation in that last post

I like my linux and knowing it's all opensource ... except my video driver .. And i do avoid using anything but opensource software as mutch as possible.


My statement on IDA was like indicated with "i hear" litteraly something i heard.

you want to say your video driver and your sound driver and other things keep in my that linux it's not all opensorce if it was all opensorce only a CPU with about 7GHz will run it ok....

That's about the dummest thing i ever heard.

if ATI and Nvdia made there drivers open source, they would be
-as fast, or faster if compiled for your specific system
-they would be open source

Imo there is no reason to keep them closed source.

And besides that, there are decent drivers, and i can use them, only for my X1400 ati there a bit behind. which is logical seeing as the opensource people don't have access to the same information at the same times.

yes there are drivers provided by us but they are a litle slow when touching with openGL, now the NVIDIA produces their drivers opensorce but when installing them we need to compile "make && make install clean" for they run... and an system that is totally open sorce that doesn't exist what we have is the source and there are binarie files that run the open sorce program's do you know where i'm trying to get... But if you think that your linux is totality open sorce why do you have in you sorce tree the folders "/usr/bin" or "/usr/local/bin" or "/usr/X11R6/bin" this is the location of the binarie files some of them there are more and they run compiled not open sorce but there are many programs that run in open sorce because of them....

Forgive me in case I'm wrong, but I get the impression that your understanding of an open source operating system is just a bunch of source codes, nothing compiled to binaries in any way, which is magically interpreted (again, by no binary executable) to make up a running system?

Regards,
Hive

No what i'm sauing is that FreeBsd as linux uses binari files to make other open sorce program's to run there's no magical CPU that can interpret for now the opensource programs... is in that part that i try to explain for example the sound driver if the sound driver was totali open source it will run the sound but it will sound a real crap so in open source OS there exist a part of it that is compiled and in my case for example i have my sound card driver and my video card compiled in order for in to run openGl programs ok undertand that i'm not saying that the system doesn't have the ability to run uncompiled program's... But that it will need some of the compiled ones to run the uncompiled ones...

Before I trod off to the pharmacy getting something against the migraine that I'm seized with all of a sudden, just one question:
What, to your understanding, is an "open source program" ?

Regards,
Hive

open source program is when you get something like this "
int a=0x00;
int b=0x00;
int c=0x00;
main(.... i don't remenber what i put here)
{
printf("hello world \n");
}
"
something like this
but this you should know.... but there are other types that run uncompiled.... like my vi program...
for more information send an email to the FreeBsd team i'm one of the members what i think is that because of my bad english you are not understanding me....

No. Open source means you are free to modify the code (which is freely available) without having a legal bigwig taking you to court for violating some god damned IP right. If you modify that given code for commercial purpose, your new code must also be available (or Open - ie open source).

It has nothing whatsoever to do with the way you understand it.

ei trav if that is right linux will run for example doom 3 with at least 50fps and that's not right without the precompiled nvidia driver the system runs the doom3 with less than 10fps... this is how i can demonstrate to you that the video driver is uncompiled for example look to your xinit... i thjink linux users aren't well with the xserver but the xserver is an example of an program that runs uncompiled... and what you said goes against the GNU law you can not modified it for selling it we in freebsd are with great troubles because we want a law that is the other people can modified it only if the author wants that happen... the author will stabilish the rules in whitch we want to distribute is software...