btw feel free to point to some documents on the java garbage control fine tuning.

All i know of is gc()
which just asks the gc to do it's work now.

i would like features, like madvice() in linux and much much more

Heh I wouldn't call that jail I feel more like stepping on those low-level guys to write easier code The little sacrifice in speed is acceptable in most real-life situations.

Of course in case when you are not satisfied with Java, using another language is always an option. It's not likely that I'll be in that situation though. I bet they'll hire one from the 45657547 C++ programmers out there to do the job, rather than trying to teach C++ to a Java programmer

About the GC stuff, I read about it from a book (Hardcore Java or something). But I suppose the basic idea is described here: http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/ALT/RefObj/

This page also seems interesting, although it's more theory than practice: http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-03-2003/jw-0307-j2segc.html

I believe if you spend enough time googling you can find even more tuts about it. But anyway I have never been in such situation when time/space is that big of a problem

that still by far doesn't give you control over the GC.


choosing the right tool for the job, is paramount. Just saying java for everything because it's all you know, or because it's a buzzword.
only recently the sun vm was opensourced. before that you were forced to use binary blobs. or a limited blackdown

I code both, Java is fun and relaxing, wheras c++ with times can be a real pain in the butt for the same task with the same skills.
but looking down on c++ is by no means necessary.

I wonder which applications would break, if JNI was removed/disabled.

Heh I never looked down on C++. I know its importance but since I learned Java I never wanted to digest it anymore

How many applications will stop working without JNI you ask? All of them Because the core libraries still depend on it

By the way, why are you not coming to the irc channel anymore? It'll be more fun if you were here (on #tbs-botzone)

I'll think about returning to irc. but it's doubtful.

quangntenemy just loves Java . Java FTL imho .

What is jail for you then, quangntenemy?

I don't want to interfene in your conversation simply because its too high for me. A propos, rhican, maybe that's a reason why, as you said, your topics are not so popular. I know that there are some people in this community who are and some others who are "noobs like me"; I can only speak from that side.

- theAnswer

you don't have to be nice and call it conversation though
it is what it is one of the many c++ vs java standoffs which probably was my fault agai.
We all know the differences, we just can't just let it be

and don't worry, I'm just a "noob" like everybody else. In hour line of "work"... It's blatantly
obvious that the only option you have is to learn very much, about very very very little.

And I do appreciate any input. I might disagree with it fiercely, but I do appreciate the input.

I realize this is too oftopic, so Inferno do feel free to delete any or every post I made in this forum.
I wonder what my forum ranking would be on that new side. subzero for sure .

jail = work where I have to use M$ stuff all day long.
Fortunately TBS is not blocked